I have heard that the site is in the Glasgow SEZ and thus eligible for grant support and tax evasion concessions. The Scottish "Government" co-established the SEZ, and has a vested interest in its success, and cannot take an impartial role in this planning process - the same applies to their planning quango. This stinks, the key issue is not Flamingo Land per se, but the lack of democracy and the scope for corruption of our public bodies. Even if the application is waved through it should be resisted by public action against our undemocratic state
This is a dreadful decision, apparently taken by someone who is not answerable to people in Scotland.
We used to be proud to be a people proud to be sovereign in our own country but that has been stripped away by our southern neighbour who has annexed our country and continues to plunder our resources for its benefit, not ours.
Now we have no voice, either at home or abroad. We're it not f ir the vsllusnt efforts of Salvo and Liberation.scot, I would be in utter despair, but thanks to them, there is some hope.
However we need to act fast. We need to swell the numbers supporting Liberation.scot so that the UN takes our petition for help in decolonisation seriously and also to swell the numbers supporting it in Scotland so that we can show the British Government, that Inpependence is the settled Will of a majority of the Scottish People. Opinion polls show this to be the case but we need a more official way of registering this fact, perhaps through the means of next year's Holyrood Election.
Thanks for this. I have signed up to 'Scotland Decides', anyone else doing so there is a sub fee of £2 just to note that.
It does sound somewhat corrupt, or at least very dodgy re who is involved in making this decision and of course FLand will have all of the 'details' in their portfoliio for sure! This is not what we should accept in any way shape or form.
I have signed the PE2135 petition a while back, and sent to others.
Were planning laws put in place in Scotland by the English administration? How long ago?
Yes big ???'s over why in Scotland, there is an unelected so called 'independent reporter' having a say in decisions taken on any matter whatsoever, nevermind making those decisions without consulting the people, who didn't vote him in!. Who employs him? How did he get to be involved in this at all? Which other matters is he involved in? 'Too many unanswered questions' to quote the BritNats back in 2014.
Let's also remember the English administration installs English civil servants in Scotland by the 1000's...I mean if that's not indicative of colonisation I don't know what is.
I'll email Ivan Mckee as well. Worrying re A. Robertson's blanking the petition, pretty disgraceful. and of course the softly softly approach in general of John Swinney. Yikes.
“All that being said, there is a serious concern about the way that the Scottish Administration is behaving. For those with independence on their minds I ask, do you feel happy about independence with this lot in charge? Or do you believe that we need to fully explore what sort of country we want to live in first?”
Having independence in mind - in fact as a central goal, I think it would help the cause if the SNP announced that the party would disbanding 3 - 5 years following independence. That promise would help concentrate voter’s minds on independence rather than the performance of the SNP. It might also help concentrate the SNP leadership on achieving the primary goal.
I suspect that a large proportion of the objectors had very little idea of what they were objecting to. Balloch was an industrial town - it has not been a pristine wilderness for a very long time . I believe that the site had been railway sidings at the terminus of the old Dumbarton and Balloch Joint Railway, in other words a "brownfield" site despite being abandoned to nature from the 1960s onwards as the importance of rail declined. It's a shame that the Victorian railway promoters never managed to build their proposed Swiss style rack railway up Ben Lomond with a lovely big gothic hotel at the top - what a tourist asset offering lots of local employment that would be today!
Wow, how to insult people who objected to the planning application. Who cares if it was 'industrial', much of Scotland was used for industry in the past.
Read 'Deep Fried Hillman Imp' for an insight into the deliberate lack of investment in a suitable transport system in Scotland outwith the central belt and even then, it waas less thgan adequate.
I'm glad the 'Victorian railway promoters' did not build the Swiss style rail rack...Scotland has lots and lots of tourism without that.
What about the employment this offers in an area of high unemployment and poverty with all the social problems this entails? Yes you and I would both would prefer that high skilled, high wage manufacturing jobs would come to the Leven valley rather than more basic service jobs, however neither the Scottish private or public sectors appear to be capable of that. The provision of Tourism infrastructure in Scotland is woeful with both the private and public sectors having very poor records. The low availability of quality accommodation at reasonable prices and poor road and rail access is a severely limiting factor - thank goodness the Victorian railway entrepreneurs managed to push through the West Highland Railway before the professional naysayers could sabotage it!
I have heard that the site is in the Glasgow SEZ and thus eligible for grant support and tax evasion concessions. The Scottish "Government" co-established the SEZ, and has a vested interest in its success, and cannot take an impartial role in this planning process - the same applies to their planning quango. This stinks, the key issue is not Flamingo Land per se, but the lack of democracy and the scope for corruption of our public bodies. Even if the application is waved through it should be resisted by public action against our undemocratic state
This is a dreadful decision, apparently taken by someone who is not answerable to people in Scotland.
We used to be proud to be a people proud to be sovereign in our own country but that has been stripped away by our southern neighbour who has annexed our country and continues to plunder our resources for its benefit, not ours.
Now we have no voice, either at home or abroad. We're it not f ir the vsllusnt efforts of Salvo and Liberation.scot, I would be in utter despair, but thanks to them, there is some hope.
However we need to act fast. We need to swell the numbers supporting Liberation.scot so that the UN takes our petition for help in decolonisation seriously and also to swell the numbers supporting it in Scotland so that we can show the British Government, that Inpependence is the settled Will of a majority of the Scottish People. Opinion polls show this to be the case but we need a more official way of registering this fact, perhaps through the means of next year's Holyrood Election.
Not surprised we always get screwed over
Thanks for this. I have signed up to 'Scotland Decides', anyone else doing so there is a sub fee of £2 just to note that.
It does sound somewhat corrupt, or at least very dodgy re who is involved in making this decision and of course FLand will have all of the 'details' in their portfoliio for sure! This is not what we should accept in any way shape or form.
I have signed the PE2135 petition a while back, and sent to others.
Were planning laws put in place in Scotland by the English administration? How long ago?
Yes big ???'s over why in Scotland, there is an unelected so called 'independent reporter' having a say in decisions taken on any matter whatsoever, nevermind making those decisions without consulting the people, who didn't vote him in!. Who employs him? How did he get to be involved in this at all? Which other matters is he involved in? 'Too many unanswered questions' to quote the BritNats back in 2014.
Let's also remember the English administration installs English civil servants in Scotland by the 1000's...I mean if that's not indicative of colonisation I don't know what is.
I'll email Ivan Mckee as well. Worrying re A. Robertson's blanking the petition, pretty disgraceful. and of course the softly softly approach in general of John Swinney. Yikes.
For Scotland Decides, you don't have to pay the £2 fee in order to vote. If you don't pay it, you won't have access to the app.
“All that being said, there is a serious concern about the way that the Scottish Administration is behaving. For those with independence on their minds I ask, do you feel happy about independence with this lot in charge? Or do you believe that we need to fully explore what sort of country we want to live in first?”
Having independence in mind - in fact as a central goal, I think it would help the cause if the SNP announced that the party would disbanding 3 - 5 years following independence. That promise would help concentrate voter’s minds on independence rather than the performance of the SNP. It might also help concentrate the SNP leadership on achieving the primary goal.
I suspect that a large proportion of the objectors had very little idea of what they were objecting to. Balloch was an industrial town - it has not been a pristine wilderness for a very long time . I believe that the site had been railway sidings at the terminus of the old Dumbarton and Balloch Joint Railway, in other words a "brownfield" site despite being abandoned to nature from the 1960s onwards as the importance of rail declined. It's a shame that the Victorian railway promoters never managed to build their proposed Swiss style rack railway up Ben Lomond with a lovely big gothic hotel at the top - what a tourist asset offering lots of local employment that would be today!
Wow, how to insult people who objected to the planning application. Who cares if it was 'industrial', much of Scotland was used for industry in the past.
Read 'Deep Fried Hillman Imp' for an insight into the deliberate lack of investment in a suitable transport system in Scotland outwith the central belt and even then, it waas less thgan adequate.
I'm glad the 'Victorian railway promoters' did not build the Swiss style rail rack...Scotland has lots and lots of tourism without that.
What about the employment this offers in an area of high unemployment and poverty with all the social problems this entails? Yes you and I would both would prefer that high skilled, high wage manufacturing jobs would come to the Leven valley rather than more basic service jobs, however neither the Scottish private or public sectors appear to be capable of that. The provision of Tourism infrastructure in Scotland is woeful with both the private and public sectors having very poor records. The low availability of quality accommodation at reasonable prices and poor road and rail access is a severely limiting factor - thank goodness the Victorian railway entrepreneurs managed to push through the West Highland Railway before the professional naysayers could sabotage it!