Yes horrendous, the destruction and slaughter on such a mass scale and continuing, just beggars belief, or so you'd think. Miller was asked why he wa s'smirking' when asked about numbers of dead in Gaza, he smirks all the time it's incredibly disturbing to watch, then he laughed. Yikes.
I have seen on some youtube channels that I liked and followed, :-/ the English commenters who were so anti Tory some satirical, now praising Starmer to the hilt, and the comments, just sickening. Some are treating the election as a massive saviour to all mankind and talking about Starmer as if he is a saint, not a SIR, not very rich man who is not averse to people including lttle children in Gaza being starved, denied water, and murdered by Israel. It's really scary so many are talking as if he is a saint, just because he has a guy in his cabinet who doesn't like so many folks being locked up in prison etc. I bet those who would normally be locked up in England for perhaps minor crimes, will be put to good use as a ready army though! Just watch when the honeymoon is over, it won't be pretty for the people of England and even less pretty for the people of Scotland. I despair.
It doesn't say in the Haaretz link that at least HALF were killed by Israeli forces. It says it doesn't know how many. Hamas videoed themselves killing civilians, students and foreign workers and the videos are all over the Internet. True estimates of friendly fire incidents are nowhere near HALF the number of people killed, but a few dozen at most. When people make wild claims like this and paint Israel as a cartoon villain, it brings the whole piece into question, and I'm no Zionist. There's no need to lie about what Israel has done to make it look worse; the truth is bad enough.
The crucial thing to understand is that the Israeli government lies constantly. It's thanks to brave journalists at the Electronic Intifada and the Grayzone that we first knew of the IDF's use of the Hannibal Directive on October 7th. We may never know the true number of Israelis killed by their own army, the IDF, on 7th October and the hostages killed afterwards in Gaza from IDF carpetbombing. We do know Israel never really cared about getting the hostages back. And we know from the Lancet report last month that a conservative estimate of the number of Palestinians that Israel has killed, starved and who have died from disease is conservatively 186,000 and rising. You do the math. What's the ratio of dead Israelis to dead Palestinians? Was Israel, as it claims, defending itself, or was October 7th an uprising against an inhuman and illegal occupation?
If you were forced to live in an open air prison and were treated as subhuman by the illegal occupying force, wouldn't you be tempted to rise up as Hamas did? Hamas was democratically elected in June 2007, something the western zionist powers never accepted.
Yes horrendous, the destruction and slaughter on such a mass scale and continuing, just beggars belief, or so you'd think. Miller was asked why he wa s'smirking' when asked about numbers of dead in Gaza, he smirks all the time it's incredibly disturbing to watch, then he laughed. Yikes.
I have seen on some youtube channels that I liked and followed, :-/ the English commenters who were so anti Tory some satirical, now praising Starmer to the hilt, and the comments, just sickening. Some are treating the election as a massive saviour to all mankind and talking about Starmer as if he is a saint, not a SIR, not very rich man who is not averse to people including lttle children in Gaza being starved, denied water, and murdered by Israel. It's really scary so many are talking as if he is a saint, just because he has a guy in his cabinet who doesn't like so many folks being locked up in prison etc. I bet those who would normally be locked up in England for perhaps minor crimes, will be put to good use as a ready army though! Just watch when the honeymoon is over, it won't be pretty for the people of England and even less pretty for the people of Scotland. I despair.
It doesn't say in the Haaretz link that at least HALF were killed by Israeli forces. It says it doesn't know how many. Hamas videoed themselves killing civilians, students and foreign workers and the videos are all over the Internet. True estimates of friendly fire incidents are nowhere near HALF the number of people killed, but a few dozen at most. When people make wild claims like this and paint Israel as a cartoon villain, it brings the whole piece into question, and I'm no Zionist. There's no need to lie about what Israel has done to make it look worse; the truth is bad enough.
Try this link, then: https://electronicintifada.net/content/evidence-israel-killed-its-own-citizens-7-october/41156
And this: https://thegrayzone.com/2023/11/27/israeli-tank-orders-fire-kibbutz/
And this: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/7/israeli-army-used-hannibal-directive-during-october-7-hamas-attack-report
The crucial thing to understand is that the Israeli government lies constantly. It's thanks to brave journalists at the Electronic Intifada and the Grayzone that we first knew of the IDF's use of the Hannibal Directive on October 7th. We may never know the true number of Israelis killed by their own army, the IDF, on 7th October and the hostages killed afterwards in Gaza from IDF carpetbombing. We do know Israel never really cared about getting the hostages back. And we know from the Lancet report last month that a conservative estimate of the number of Palestinians that Israel has killed, starved and who have died from disease is conservatively 186,000 and rising. You do the math. What's the ratio of dead Israelis to dead Palestinians? Was Israel, as it claims, defending itself, or was October 7th an uprising against an inhuman and illegal occupation?
If you were forced to live in an open air prison and were treated as subhuman by the illegal occupying force, wouldn't you be tempted to rise up as Hamas did? Hamas was democratically elected in June 2007, something the western zionist powers never accepted.